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WFC!Cyclonus is voiced by Liam O'Brien.

That is... almost perfect, ngl.
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I also wonder if I should write about how while there's a lot of interesting Labour Politics(tm) stuff in Aligned that goes into the Decepticons being a worker's militia, there's similarly interesting things going into the majority of the best-known Autobots being a part of a conscript army with most of their infantry also being retrained labourers.

Like, most of the explicitly professional military mechs we see are Decepticons, and the few professional officers we see are Autobots, which is about what you'd expect because commissioned officers are, like, academics and shit, while the majority of non-drafted military are people who just wanna make ends meet. The military of Cybertron is an interesting relic of the previous broad historical period but also a symptom of a society without much social mobility.

(Individual city-states also have apparently have their own police-forces but the "federal" police is just the military, which makes me feel A Kind Of Way as well.)

The civil war as it was isn't something I've seen a lot of explorations of other than some criticisms of the comics for having a bunch of imperialism in them (which, fair enough, they are written my Americans after all) and the tensions between civillians and military outside of wartime are incredibly interesting to me.

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IDK man, sometimes you just gotta bang out some headcanons about the structures the story takes place in b/c it'll bother you, and nobody else, if you don't know.

So. The Wreckers actually have three different signals that broadly fall under the category of "distress signal".

The first one is "general distress", which is consistent across the entire Autobot faction. This is the one that sees basically no use, because once the Wreckers are on assignment, it's a matter of pride of either seeing it through or dying in the attempt. They have a higher-than-average rate of response to general distress calls, though, because they can't exactly go straight from highly volatile mission to another without long planning and restocking phases inbetween, which often leaves the ground teams with jack shit to do, which leads to plenty of playing heroes because why the hell not.

The other two signals only used by Wreckers are unique variants of the Autobot "position compromised" signal. The first one is "position lost -- retreating", also known as the "they're all yours, boys" signal. Retreat signals are usually something issued to units from command, but because Wrecker plans often rely on having one team causing as big of a ruckus as they can while the other one tries to get something actually done, the deadline for getting shit done is when the other team is no longer capable of fighting. On paper, after the signal is issued you're supposed to haul aft and wait for a regroup signal somewhere safe, but in practice whoever has issued the signal is going to need extraction, having failed their own push, or because they're genuinely being overwhelmed in their position.

The other signal is "position lost -- retrieval". This one is actually more common to see, especially during missions that go disastrously wrong, because the proud fuckers that they are, most Wreckers are awful at knowing when to retreat and will only give up once they're literally incapable of getting away. The retrieval signal is the last thing any given team will send out, almost a formality, because it comes with the expectation that by the time retrieval is available, they'll be long dead.

The Wreckers also have a dedicated "converge on point" signal that is used in similarly suicidal ways and literally just designates a spot where any available unit can and should come in guns blazing, regardless of circumstance and heedless of possible friendly fire. The only other unit that uses a similar signal is Autobot Special Ops, and Wreckers and SpecOps have cordially agreed to use different signals in case one ever needs to act as a decoy for the other.

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After a few days of pretty intense individual scrutiny, I figured it would be a good to pull back a little and collate what I know and what I've already figured out about the geopolitics of Cybertron so I don't have to go back to the wiki every time it happens, and it'll also probably be a good jumping off point for other people or whatever.

Unfortunately there isn't a way to make this as generic as I'd like since the history and politics change with every canon (and also rarely are they kept consistent as writers just kinda come up with their own shit) so this is going to be focused on my interpretation of Aligned, specifically drawing from the novels and Prime, as well as using material created for the WFC. I've said elsewhere but I take a kind of... anthropological approach to the stuff I add to the worldbuilding, so where my sources contradict each other, I try to figure out why the contradiction exists and whether it has significance.

My primary resource is... my memory, as well as TFWiki, so factual errors aren't only likely, they're also pretty unavoidable :'D I'll try to come back to fix any mistakes, but the point of this post isn't to be comprehensive, it's mostly a self-reminder.

Anyway. Relevant pictures under the cut. )

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So, okay.

Since Dark Energon is shown in the first episodes of the show shown to have the ability to give non-sentient machines “life”, and we know that Dark Energon is way more potent than normal Energon by a factor of Oh No

and synthetic Energon has the property to generate cybermatter based on instructions when reacting with CNA (or, well okay, more likely, when reacting to with catalytic solution used for cloning, which is probably not unlike the protomateria that forms around sparks when they start to gestate b/c if it reacted with just CNA, Ratchet would have been immediately f u c k e d during his initial trial)

And since sparks and Energon both emanate from Primus

I don’t think it would be a stretch to argue that Energon itself is somehow protoconscious, and sparks are just Energon in some stable, self-regulating state – stable enough to form a consciousness, and to have a full set of assembly instructions for a frame (CNA) along with whatever root processes are necessary to make sure the two integrate properly.

So, theoretically, if you just put enough Energon in the right place, under the right conditions, eventually it’ll stabilise into a new spark.

That spark would have very little in way of personality, though – since sparks emerge in clusters, they probably interact through EM fields with each other during the gestation process. Under normal circumstances, this means that by the time newsparks are ready to emerge, they’ve developed a sense of self, and enough of a personality to direct their physical development. A spark created from distilled Energon wouldn’t get the chance to go through that development until later – and its development would probably be further informed/constrained by the kind of frame it was housed in.

(Also, to borrow from Jupiter Rising of all places – if Energon contains the information for the assembly code and conscious processes of Cybertronians, resurrection suddenly becomes a possibility, since there’s no reason other than probability for certain cybernetic sequences to re-emerge. Hell – if information actually returns to Primus when a Cybertronian dies, having generational memory becomes a possibility, as that information would probably just end up in the general circulation of Energon. I don’t know how that would actually work, though, it seems likelier just to be a belief.)

We actually see something like this happen with Predaking – he starts out with a very rudimentary consciousness that develops the longer it spends in the Predacon frame, and unless Shockwave split his spark between all the baby Predacons (the way Starscream presumably did with his clones), his and the rest of their sparks must have come from somewhere.

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So in the spirit of "fuck it, I guess I'll be my own fan base" I went to read back through my fan talk tag and to my great consternation discovered that apparently I'm angry about how much unexplored territory every single ship involving Bulkhead is for the eight month running.

So that's fun.

I also stand by my original statement from that post that the only character who has more fun ship dynamics available is Smokescreen, and that's because Smokescreen is the Dumb Young Idiot who tries to impress everyone (and that makes him, just. Inherently shippable, b/c attention-y behaviour is just really good fodder). But, you know, Smokescreen is Young & Hot and has the silhouette of an Hollywood Athlete(tm) and that's why he's the team bicycle.

Meanwhile... IDK. I guess Bulkhead is just the kind of character (read: the only character with Any Fucking Common Sense, Holy Fuck Y'All Are Such Passionate Idiots) I keep finding interesting dynamics for -- half of them practically made to generate endless fluff. Putting aside my OTP and their dramatics for a moment, Bulkhead also has very good chemistry with Arcee (the Bestie Shit Arcee does behind Bulk's back is my favourite thing, goddamn) and Ratchet (he acts like he doesn't caaaaare but he dooooooes), he's also probably the most suited to be the Caller-Out of Primes on their Primely Bullshit, being able to fairly confidently say that Bad Things Are Bad and Good Things Are Good and Optimus, aren't you forgetting that We Are the Good Guys Here? And when I say Smokescreen wants to prove himself to everyone, I mean Smokescreen wants to prove himself to e v e r y o n e. It's only appropriate Bulkhead is the one who openly acts like a mentor towards him.

On top of that, even among the people who recognise that despite being the team Bruiser, Bulkhead's actually quite the teddybear, not a lot of them recognise that holy shit he was also essentially blackops, and that context makes the lapses in his judgement and his more brutal moments way more interesting. I've seen maybe one person question exactly what Bulkhead's definition of The Good Guys is, and how that plays into his relationship with his allies, let alone his attitude towards his enemies. Like, shit, you'd figure a morally lapsed marshmallow man would be right up the alley of a good half of this fandom.

And yet.

(Also none of this would bother me so much if it wasn't for a little niggling fact that despite the long-standing species-wide size queen jokes everyone seems fairly comfortable treating Bulkhead like he's completely nonsexual. Hmm.)

(I'm frustrated, y'all. A part of me wants to think that I'm reading too much into this and that They're Robots So Beaty Standards Don't Apply but frankly the fandom is still made of humans, and Prime!Bulkhead isn't the only big-boned bot I like that gets hit with this, so I feel fairly confident (and, thus, extremely salty) in being a bit conspiratorial about this.)

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Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:20
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Didn't get far in my building on yesterday's post but I did think about how Wheeljack was absolutely was the go-to bootlegger among the Wreckers, and has had time to seek out and find out Earth equivalents for all the contraband sweets, so whenever he's snacking on something equivalent of industrial soap, the humans and rest of the team is like "ew how can you eat that"

except for Bulkhead who steals his snack box and talks about how the Wreckers had a running joke that Wheeljack would find the grossest snacks he could just so he'd be the only one eating them, while Wheeljack is following him like

"you say that and yet here you are?? Eating?? All of them?"

":]"

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Sometimes the thing with Bulkhead/Wheeljack is that they're like "I love you, but could you stop being horny for like five minutes so we can finish this conversation", and I forget to bring that along and instead try to jump straight into writing the conversation.

Like, yeah, they have issues, but they're also Crazy Into Each Other, which I can't just gloss over b/c it's the reason they repeatedly try to solve their problems against the insurmountable impossibility of Being A Good Boyfriend. A lot of it comes down to "I'm making an effort, and I'm making this effort for you, and I wouldn't make it for anyone else."
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People calling Prime!Wheeljack a ninja cowboy bothers me so much, because he's so obviously a ronin cowboy.

He's a masterless wanderer, he has a strict sense of personal honour (that isn't necessarily reflecting the principles of his ostensible faction) and generally acts like the bastard version of a knight errant. His loyalty shifting to Team Prime is the conclusion of his character arc, like goddamn.

He isn't even sneaky, his whole fighting style is all flash, crowd control and being an irresistibly shiny and dangerous object. If anyone in Prime counts as a ninja, it would be Smokescreen :'D

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I love trying to explain my Aligned Hollow Knight AU b/c it always turns into an astounding amount of bullshit in an unbelievably short time.

Like it starts out straightforward enough -- Primus is the Pale King, Unicron is the Radiance. (The Primes are Godseekers or whatever. They're not relevant.)

Next, Optimus is Ghost and Megatron is Hollow Knight. But wait, Megatron is also kind of... Vessel-like, which would make Optimus Hornet? But, if Megatron is Ghost, then Optimus is basically a Dreamer?

And the Autobots are basically the Kingdom of Hallownest, which makes Optimus the Pale King? Which makes Megatron the Radiance, which works better than I like admitting. And if Optimus is the Pale King, then his command staff are The Five Great Knights? Would that make the Wreckers the Mantis tribe? Except Impactor is basically a Reverse Traitor Lord and--

Ow.

Ow, ow, ow, my head.

Oh!

Tuesday, 23 April 2019 10:46
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Right! Okay!

I think I worked out at least a bit what my problem with a lot of Prime!Wheeljack fic is :|c

I've theorised before that the reason Wheeljack Is The Way He Is in Prime is b/c on the Bluray extras they mention switching Ironhide out for Bulkhead b/c they didn't want to have too many red 'bots and couldn't use his Bayverse colours b/c he was slated to die in the film coming out next, so I figured that something similar had happened with Sideswipe (white/silver in Bayverse) and Wheeljack

and now when I'm more familiar with G1 -- yeah, there definitely is a tendency to give Prime!Jackie some Sideswipe-ish qualities that don't. Really. Like, they didn't sit right with me even before I was familiar with other Wheeljacks but they definitely don't sit right with me now when I realise what parts of the continuity soup Prime!Jackie draws the most from for his characterisation.

Read more... )

I don't know how much of it is brought about by people who write Aligned stuff mostly sticking to Aligned and not really drawing on the multiverse because admittedly various levels of dangerous confidence look similar from a distance, and I might just have clued in on this particular read because "lol relatable tho". Nevertheless, that explains things.

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Anyway y'all

I forgot how fucking hard the OST to Metal Gear Rising fucking goes, and how much of it is Very Much Wrecker Material.

Top picks are "I'm My Own Master"


"A Soul Can't Be Cut"


and "The War Rages Within"


with a Honourable mention that "A Stranger I Remain" is very much an IDW!Arcee song.

I don't listen listen to metal/industrial but this is like the one exception that will get me hype Every Instance.

*inhales*

Friday, 29 March 2019 22:27
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*exhales*

I need more Bulkhead-centric content.

I need it like air.

I need him to be the dashing romantic hero everyone circles around because they cannot bring themselves to approach him, I need him to be the steady protector they all realise they've maybe secretly been in love with this entire time because there's something to be said for how being cared for affects you.

I need people thinking that he's a legit snack and arguing with themselves on the best method to enthusiastically Climb That Like A Tree.

I need it.
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I’m pretty sure Alpha Trion was deliberately grooming Smokescreen for a Rodimus-like role. I mean, he could see the future, he was probably able to anticipate the events of Season 2, so for the sake of the cosmos, he made sure to have a backup plan for when Known Idealist Optimus Prime would fail to do what needed to be done to end the war.

Like, maybe he deliberately picked Smokescreen, because someone so young, naive and hungry for recognition would be easy to shape into a zealot capable of returning peace to Cybertron by any means necessary, would be easy to groom into thinking that the ends justify the means,

and then on top of that made sure to cultivate qualities that would appeal to Optimus, namely perseverance, good cheer and a forward-looking positivity, so when manoeuvred into a position where he’d have to give up the Matrix, Optimus would naturally feel inclined to hand it over to the person Alpha Trion wanted it to end up with.

And it almost worked, too. I have no doubt that when Smokescreen first arrived on Earth, had he then been offered the Matrix, he wouldn’t have thought twice about taking it. But either by providence or good luck, Smokescreen’s mercurial adaptability meant that by the time Alpha Trion’s plan would have taken effect, he’d already grown to exceed it, and could find a third option.

As much as his naivety and malleability made Smokescreen the ideal candidate for such a plan, it also made him the perfect foil for it. Having the forward-looking, progress-oriented attitude that endeared that was required for Optimus to fall for Alpha Trion’s scheme meant that Smokescreen’s growth didn’t just stop at the things Alpha Trion taught him.

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Optimus is not a bad-looking truck. He’s very classically handsome, and his charisma helps to elevate him into Quite A Catch for those into his frame type.

Ultra Magnus, however, is basically the standard of beauty for his frame type. He’s a bona fide Fine Specimen, impossibly handsome for a truck, a legit case of “have you ever seen a mech so beautiful you started crying”. He could have easily been a model, if he didn’t have the charisma of a rusted nail.

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The best-kept secret of Team Prime is the bonkers good aim Bulkhead has.

The reason it doesn't come up much is because a) he's primarily a close-quarters fighter packing enough firepower that just hitting in the vicinity of where you aimed is enough and b) his poor reflexes -- the actual reason he's so accident-prone -- end up playing a much larger role in battle situations.

But in the event that he gets to show off, his throwing aim (and as a corollary, his ability to catch stuff thrown his way) is pretty much pinpoint accurate. The reason for it is that as a construction worker, he has a sensory array that prioritises the kind of spatial information required for three-dimensional reasoning -- normally used for figuring out the stress profiles of different structures, but also highly useful for working out trajectories. He also has better fine motor control than he ever gets credit for -- not graceful on the level of, say, Optimus, but way less clumsy than anyone thinks.

More self-indulgently, the mechanical basis for it is that Bulkhead's sensory systems experience significant overlap in the radio-IR spectrum and while the internal resolution/focus speed of his optics might not be any better than anyone elses, the range of radiation and the resolution of the spectrum he can perceive is much higher.

He and Ratchet are also the only two in Team Prime who have native UV/near-UV vision, and Bulkhead has the highest colour/brightness distinction out of all of them. After all, it would be advantageous for a constructor to see/sense what parts of a building are likely to form radio wave "noise traps", and have access to IR and even x-ray vision -- although "seeing" in x-ray (or more accurately, shifting his range of vision into the x-ray spectrum) and "seeing" in radio wave is disorienting enough that Bulkhead rarely uses them outside of when they're absolutely needed.

(This is also one of those headcanons I will smugly point the canon support out for. Bulkhead having Anti-Stormtrooper Aim is legit a consistent aspect of his characterisation, although in TFA his spatial awareness isn't nearly as good as it is in Prime.)

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Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:32
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You know what's cute?

Wheeljack is the romantic and Bulkhead is the cynic.

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Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:01
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I feel like my biggest problem right now with the Half A Mind sequel (currently titled "Lovealikes" because I do actually love me some terrible title puns) is that it's... happy.

Like, it really is just some cute happytimes with very low stakes, but it exists as an extension of a text that has some fairly serious themes (like war trauma, moral injury and relationship issues brought about by poor communication) and I know, instinctively, that it's much better for me to write the whole thing through and then go back and edit the tone to better fit the emotional state the characters are in

but doing it like that really makes me feel how... frivolous the events really are. These characters have gone through so much. This quite literally isn't a big deal -- the biggest deal about it is that it's really not like them to just randomly go on a date, and it has both of them quite skittish because they're still working out the exact nature of their relationship.

And I want to lean into that but it instantly takes me back to those dark themes and while I still have the plot kind of in two pieces with nothing solid connecting them, I don't feel like chasing that dark edge of realisation that "wow it's pretty messed up that all of this feels super strange and unnatural" is the best way to beef the plot up.

A lot happens in Lovealikes. The plot actually moves at a pace I like, but I feel like the way I'm writing it is too impersonal for any of it to be really interesting. Safe to say that Wheeljack's perspective is turning out more difficult to write than I thought it would be ://
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I keep thinking thoughts about Wheeljack's fighting style developing in the context of serving with the Wreckers, who for the most part are bigger and heavier than he is, but also in the context of serving beside Bulkhead, who, despite being a big bot, is also not Incredibly Huge like Impactor and Roadbuster, so their fighting styles end up converging in weird places.

Like, to quote myself, Wheeljack is for the most part The Shiniest Object. The way he fights is fast and flashy, keeping every eye on the battlefield on him byway of being the quickest-approaching threat in every single situation, and relying on either overwhelming the opponent into falling on the defensive, or being out of reach by the time they're ready to retaliate, quick and light on his feet.

But then sometimes there will be moments where he'll resort to straight-up ramming his enemies, compensating for his comparative lack of mass by getting his speed up in alt form and having his whole weight behind an attack meant to lay his opponents flat. Instead of dancing around an opponents, he'll quite literally drive right at 'em, and through 'em if at all possible.

Because that's how Bulkhead fights -- all power, all momentum. Being within his reach is terrifying unless you're constantly pushing back, because for all his comparative lack of speed, he really only does need to land one proper hit to regain and press his advantage, blow after blow after blow, until his opponent goes down.

Except then he proceeds to have these moments of frankly startling dexterity, where an expertly timed dodge or a step back out of range upsets his opponents balance and turns their momentum into a weapon, letting it do the damage. Catching punches and redirecting strikes, because while he can no-sell plenty of damage, what Wheeljack dodges with sheer reflex, Bulkhead can turn about into an advantage when he can spot it coming.

Their synergy in battle is not just the result of knowing themselves and making the most out of their best qualities, but also knowing how to take advantage of each other's best qualities.

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Tuesday, 25 December 2018 15:43
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My firm headcanon is that Wheeljack has extended manual control over his own control systems (power distribution, sensory systems etc etc) and I'm entertaining myself by thinking about the absolute spark attack it'll give Ratchet when he realises Wheeljack can do manual reroutings and generally screw with his own root systems.

Like just IMAGINE the incandescent rage and loud righteoust chewing-out about how BLATANTLY UNSAFE and INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS that is and how NOT EVEN EXPERIENCED MEDICS TOUCH THE ROOT DISTRIBUTIONS and WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, WHEELJACK while Jackie just stands there like "blah blah blah, are you done? I've got work I need to finish up on."

(And to be clear, this hc is about TFP!Wheeljack but only up to his reactions -- other Wheeljacks are just as bad, but a) they're better at getting away with it b/c they're not terminal show-offs b) they've got less use for system-wide minor power boostage, since they're not as much on the field and c) they at least have the good sense to be embarrassed and ashamed when someone calls them out on it being super unsafe.)

(What can I say, all Wheeljacks are goal-oriented Intuitives, if you're expecting one of them to do a Stupid Dangerous Thing, it's safe to argue all of them would do the same stupid, dangerous thing.)

(That's why I love him.)

(He dumb shit.)
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I can kinda just ride along a constructed scenario and his reactions will parse just fine and then I'll realise I'll have wandered into somewhere starkly, startlingly cynical and it'll still be entirely in character.

Bulk's got a morbid streak. True, it's nowhere as bad as someone like Ratchet, but man, he really doesn't have a ton of faith in people, not even the people he ostensibly HAS faith in.

(I really love that about him. That's probably what makes him such a neat complement for so many characters, he'll just keep trucking through stuff that'll knock a more emotionally sensitive character on their aft.)
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Fandom: Transformers Prime
Pairing: Bulkhead/Wheeljack
Tags: Fluff without Plot, Ambiguous Relationship, Depictions of PTSD, Vague descriptions of battlefield conditions, Communication issues, Backstory dump
Warnings: None
Summary: ”You’re talking like the war ever really ended, Bulk.”
Length: 11399 words

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So, about eight months back I was complaining about the lack of Bulkjack longfic in the world, because after watching Prime, the Wreckers were the only thing I cared about, and I was left howling into an empty void about how much I love them, goddammit!!!

So I wrote fic about it. As you do.

Enjoy!
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The context for waffling about making things Lighter and Softer as we go was that I was talking about Transformers Prime on Discord and it came up that if we could make Megatron feel a little bit of love for his fellow mecha again, the Decepticon high command might have not been so... quarrelsome? And may have been more loyal and focused? And maybe had better morals as a result over all, because they would have been invested in caring for each other as well? (We all know all Starscream needs is a little positive reinforcement and he'll become Loyal and Useful again.)

And in that context, I got to thinking: My take on TFP has the entire time been that it's a gray conflict where one side became more moral and ethical as time went by -- Optimus Prime pulling the whole faction up with him by refusing to fall to his opponent's level and Megatron pulling his whole faction down with him by trying to win by any means necessary -- and you know, Narrative Mechanics dictate that if the Decepticons are the ones pulling themselves up from the morally gray swamp and becoming more moral and unified, then the Autobots clearly should be the ones who become worse as time goes on.

Except, well... Negative character development in a context where positive character development furthers the plot is frustrating to me, so instead, I started thinking about what would happen if both sides of the conflict slowly became more moral and invested in the wellbeing of their comrades, and that kinda. Softened the whole conflict to the point where I could actually see The All-Important Plot-Moving War literally just ending in a mutual ceasefire because enough dying had been done for both sides to just be tired of it.

And in a series that in its darker iterations is all about how war and conflict are corruptive and makes everyone be the worst version of themselves, that does kinda feel like getting a pat on the butt and being told you did a good job and it's okay now, but I'd be lying if I said that it didn't appeal to me to give all of the characters a chance to go "but... what if, maybe, we are better than that?" It's also something I keep putting into the ideas for characters who don't show up in Prime but exist in Aligned (so they can exist in Prime and be there for me to Play With) like Impactor, whose arcs end up being about refusing to be the version of themselves they are in, say, the comics.

Ultimately, it just feels incomplete to me to make characters watch themselves turn into a worse version of themselves and neither make it an outright tragedy where that state becomes terminal, or go "wait, I don't actually want to be like this" and... change. And ultimately, I believe that people who have done enough bad things to become tired of it will realise they could have been doing good all along instead.

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