SUCH BRAVERY

[yvannairie]

"Here's my controversial opinion: the thing you just said you're annoyed when people rag on and misrepresent is actually bad."

Fucking-- came to that conclusion on your own did you?? Figured bringing up your negative feelings when I've just expressed annoyance at people shitting on the thing was a Brave Act Of Nobility did you??

Fucking god.

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[rhodanum]

THIS. ↑↑↑

I've seen this exact thing happen consistently over the years, to both myself and others in fandom. At this point I keep wondering if fandom as a social-space just has a problem with attracting individuals who, on top of lacking even the most basic notions of etiquette, just don't seem to have much of a concern about what sort of experience they turn fandom into for other people. Hitting someone's buttons by mistake is one thing, it happens and it's inevitable in a space with people from so many different backgrounds. But there's a world of difference between that and purposefully marching into someone's space and shitting all over something they clearly said they love and are sick of seeing maligned.

What can be termed 'geeky / nerdy' fandoms suffer from this particularly badly and I've got a litany of nonsense saved over the years, from Star Wars fandom to Tolkien fandom. Beyond a lack of concern with others in fandom, it strikes me as someone investing too much of themselves into being able to 'correctly' identify what is 'bad' in fandom (canons, plot-points, characters, etc) that they reach a point where anyone else finding joy and merit in what they've deemed to be 'bad' feels like a personal attack on themselves and their tastes (that they're mistaking for objective truth).

[yvannairie]

Also like this is on a server with a strict "your fun is not my fun/no interest policing", like holy shit. How much do you gotta hate something to come tell someone whose whole rant was about uninformed snideness about something they like pisses them off and think "hm. Yes. Provoking them about how the thing is bad is the sensible action to take here."

Like, just let me like my bad thing in peace, if you hate it so much that it's impossible for you to be sympathetic.

[rhodanum]

on a server with a strict "your fun is not my fun/no interest policing"

/ facepalm

If you haven't done so, I suggest reporting the user to the mods. I'm one of the mods in a relatively large, pan-fandom Discord server and we have a similar rule. I've passed out several strikes and even one full ban to users who were engaging in the exact same behavior you're describing here (lotta drama in the Pokemon channel, what with the new game launching...)

[yvannairie]

It ended up being an unintentional case of poking the angry bear b/c the person who made the snide comment had misread my original comment, so no harm, no foul.

I did end up telling the mod team that it feels kinda shitty that every time this happens, I'm the one who gets to told that I need to "assume good faith" and "calm down", and the people who provoked me, intentionally or not, won't sometimes even be expected to apologise. (There are other loud angry people on the server who aren't held to the same standard, either.)

IDK, if I'm expressing negative feelings -- that's already hard enough for me. If someone comes to then tell me "you're expressing negative feelings wrong", it might not be the healthiest reaction to flip out at them, but it don't feel good when the response I get is "well you should have simply had better control of your feelings in the first place". Did none of these people get bullied in middle-school or something?