Confirming what I knew already, lol

[yvannairie]

So there was a post a while back about how people who say Bring Me To Life is a bad song b/c it's become a meme just can't admit it still goes hard, which prompted me to comment that similarly people who act like Linkin Park is a meme band just don't wanna admit they totally were blasting Meteora/Minutes to Midnight back in early Oughts, which left me throwing some LP on in the background while I'm on the road

And yeah, people who act like it's bad for being popular enough to become a meme are fucking idiots who probably just can't admit it's not for them, personally.

(Like, I get it, I'm a Finn who's never particularly liked metal, sometimes music just doesn't resonate with you, but there's so many reasons for why this would resonate with people and probably still does, it's just that humorless bastards think it's funny to mock anyone who has an emotional reaction to art.)

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[brin_bellway]

When I was a kid (in the Oughts) I disliked new music mostly because I disliked the people who were exposing me to it. I've warmed up to 00's pop somewhat since then, though I still think a lot of it is just so *depressing*. (I don't like music that's *too* happy, but there's such a thing as going too far the other way.)

That being said, I unironically like Phil Collins, so I think I know a similar feel.

[yvannairie]

Yeah, that's sensible, although I admit I did a double-take at someone referring to LP as "pop" |D

[brin_bellway]

Yeah, I wavered on whether to use that term, but couldn't think of a better one.

[yvannairie]

"Alternative" is what I go for, usually. Even "punk" qualifies, I think. IDK. I honestly thought for the longest time that I was exclusively into pop before someone pointed out that POTF is actually rock and that half my playlist is hip-hop so I'm also no authority.

[brin_bellway]

>>so I'm also no authority.<<

Yeah, I don't really understand genre very well. In the context where I was growing up, genre was kind of *mentioned*, but the main categorisation system for music was *decade*. But there's lots of stuff that doesn't fit into a decade paradigm, and not just exceptions-that-prove-the-rule stuff like "this song made in the 10's is trying to sound circa-1980 (and it's working)": there were lots of groups doing lots of things in the 80's, and they don't necessarily have the sound that my culture associates with the time period (or with any other time period).

(Meanwhile, in the Caribbean...)

I use the "genre" metadata on my music files to rank them by how much I like them, including categories for songs I only listen to at particular times and songs I haven't formed an opinion on yet.

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>>POTF<<

Am I correct in parsing this as Poets of the Fall?

(I came across "Dreaming Wide Awake" in a Red vs Blue fanmix a few years ago and loved it, but the couple of other songs I poked at on Youtube didn't grab me, so I shrugged and put it in the one-hit-wonder mental category. I may have had bad luck with which songs to poke at, though.)

((My musical tastes tend to operate at the level of *bands* more than songs: a song has to be pretty good to break through my assumption/prior that songs from unfamiliar bands are meh, but once I hear two or three such songs from the same band my brain puts them in the Good Band category and thereafter feels more positively disposed towards their work, liking songs that I would have thought were meh if they were by somebody else. I feel kind of bad about the double standard, but intellectually I suppose there's not anything *actually* wrong with being capricious about one's music preferences, and anyway I'm not sure how to do otherwise.))

[yvannairie]

Yeah, PotF is Poets of the Fall, and Dreaming Wide Awake is actually from my favourite album of theirs. It's pretty generally what their sound was like up to the 2010's after which they become more experimental and less to my tastes, although the new songs they had in Control were pretty damn amazing. My Dark Disquiet became all at once my third favourite Poets song of all time.

Funnily enough, Poets is actually way out from what I usually listen to -- I joke about my favourite genre being "things with a good beat", so everything from rock to jazz to pop to trance works really well for me and the only music I really dislike is the type that is just too much of a mess of textures for it to be satisfying.

Hell, Spotify keeps putting EDM into my daily lists b/c I got randomly served Yoiyoi Kokon in the middle of my Nerdy Song playlist and I super fell in love with REOL's sound. (Although the rest of their stuff is a lot more "pure" electronica, Yoiyoi Kokon is kind of a weird combination of traditional Japanese musical instruments and the lyrics are in "old" Japanese and the whole song just reminded me really hard of my favourite anime of all time so that's the one that gets to be my favourite. The rest of their stuff is more pixel-pop-y electronica)