LEP 27.4.

[yvannairie]

I was gonna post this on Tumblr and decided it was too spicy but since I am once again moaning the lack of yaoi in my fandoms, even of characters whose ships I don't really even care about, I really do think that all the complaining about people's lack of attention to female characters and only focusing on ships that the dislikers of such things can characterise as "any two guys" ships means that there's just plain less art of any kind now.

Like I thought brainless seme/uke bishonen porn was an unavoidable scourge on fandom but my favourite character's tags are full of porn of them with the Hot Sexy Girl from their game/show, rather than them with any of the "low-hanging yaoi ships" everyone complains about. Pixiv had a total of twenty works crosstagged with both "BL" and "Xenoblade 3", for example.

I guess I'm glad the het fans are eating well. And, granted, I do also like those ships, I just think the porn is low quality and OOC for the most part. But there's not even low-quality OOC boy/boy porn available for me to be disappointed by.

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[palominocorn]

Fans on Tumblr (and I think Twitter) will viciously harass anyone who makes "bad" representation of queer folks (and other marginalized group) while either leaving alone or only sending a fraction of the hate to folks who make exclusively straight (white, etc) stuff.

And for these people, porn or anything remotely sexual is automatically bad representation.

So I think a lot of people just gave up on posting yaoi online for fear of social media witch hunts.

[grayestofghosts]

I think fandom has taken this weird turn in terms of "canon" in that anything not "canon" is unacceptable and canon is made to serve MY (as in, the viewer's) needs, and that no creativity is needed on MY, part, and in fact creativity on MY part is undesirable. I could probably say something about how creativity is feminized in fandom versus trivia, but there's a bigger point here.

Large studios have less ick about showing explicitly f/f relationships on-screen than explicitly gay ones, especially when aimed at younger audiences. The self-serving logic of these fans is then if f/f couples are explicitly shown on screen, that means homophobia isn't the reason for these m/m relationships to not be on screen, they're not on screen because they don't exist in this story and if they don't exist in this story fandom shouldn't have them and therefore we're going to harass anyone who keeps churning out non-canonical fandom materials.

The lack of explicit gay canonical relationships in a lot of fandoms between major characters when f/f relationships are allowed has effectively created a radfem world where men are incapable of love without it being facilitated by a woman, and even if then, and fans aggressively endorsing this worldview.


A lot of what I'm talking about is what I've observed in the Arcane fandom, though this seems like it's happening everywhere. I've found the JayVik fujos are thriving in certain segments but these segments are really, really sequestered off from the main fandom in a way that's kind of disturbing, considering.