Oh man. Actually yeah, that's very right, I also pointed out to my friend how TLJ (the overall best-received of the Sequel Trilogy) feels the least-like Star Wars because it's attitude towards continuity is more immediate and modern, and the lack of a timeskip and re-establishing of context, instead just. Using the context at the end of TFA, making that movie feel much less like its own movie and rather just Act 1 for TLJ.
I think the thing that really snarls my gears about it is the lack of having a whole plot that gets is premise from the previous stories, but isn't entirely entwined with the previous story to the point of requiring all the extra context to make you feel like you were getting the most out of it. The backlash against TLJ actually makes way more sense to me post-TROS, because now I have context to verbalise why that movie felt so different.
EDIT: Also I wanna point out that the same thing applies to TROS, actually? Like, yeah, the prequels blew one half of a sentence into the premise of one of its movies but there's a ton of stuff that sits comfortably outside of the "canon" of the films. TROS went too far the other way and wanted to have everything interconnected backwards through time, and... that also didn't feel too good. TFA already felt too backwards-looking, all-of-this-has-happened-before-esque. TROS is the same but More(tm) because TLJ really zooming in on the internal context of the trilogy caused such a fucking uproar.
You make a compelling point but it's also making me wonder if the Sequel Trilogy, stuck between a rock and a hard place, being produced in an increasingly capital-controlled and test group dominated studio system and arguably having longer roots of franchisement than everything else it was going to be compared to, had any hope of being anything but kind of. Pretty, but ultimately fanservice-y whole or like any other superhero movie But In Space.
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Date: 29/12/19 14:04 (UTC)I think the thing that really snarls my gears about it is the lack of having a whole plot that gets is premise from the previous stories, but isn't entirely entwined with the previous story to the point of requiring all the extra context to make you feel like you were getting the most out of it. The backlash against TLJ actually makes way more sense to me post-TROS, because now I have context to verbalise why that movie felt so different.
EDIT: Also I wanna point out that the same thing applies to TROS, actually? Like, yeah, the prequels blew one half of a sentence into the premise of one of its movies but there's a ton of stuff that sits comfortably outside of the "canon" of the films. TROS went too far the other way and wanted to have everything interconnected backwards through time, and... that also didn't feel too good. TFA already felt too backwards-looking, all-of-this-has-happened-before-esque. TROS is the same but More(tm) because TLJ really zooming in on the internal context of the trilogy caused such a fucking uproar.
You make a compelling point but it's also making me wonder if the Sequel Trilogy, stuck between a rock and a hard place, being produced in an increasingly capital-controlled and test group dominated studio system and arguably having longer roots of franchisement than everything else it was going to be compared to, had any hope of being anything but kind of. Pretty, but ultimately fanservice-y whole or like any other superhero movie But In Space.