I would also bring up shipping for community/memes, although in those cases, I suppose antis would just say that the fact that there is a community means that people are reinforcing toxic behaviors in one another and promoting [whatever bad thing they're on about].
For example, in my experience, the most visible communities for m/f and f/f ships in Sherlock are... very very vocal about how much they hate all the dominant m/m ships (never mind that it's not the fandom's fault that there's only like two and a half major women in the show anyways, who don't interact???). It very much a factor that pushed me away from any of those ships, because what's the point of engaging with a ship if the people who want to create content for it and bond over it are horrible?
Likewise, there are all those really popular cross-fandom ships or ships with characters who have never interacted, which are frequently just popular because... somebody thought it would be aesthetically pleasing or had interesting meta implications, but everyone else for the most part just jumped aboard because it was amusing to meme about, like, Jack Frost and Elsa.
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Date: 3/11/19 00:06 (UTC)For example, in my experience, the most visible communities for m/f and f/f ships in Sherlock are... very very vocal about how much they hate all the dominant m/m ships (never mind that it's not the fandom's fault that there's only like two and a half major women in the show anyways, who don't interact???). It very much a factor that pushed me away from any of those ships, because what's the point of engaging with a ship if the people who want to create content for it and bond over it are horrible?
Likewise, there are all those really popular cross-fandom ships or ships with characters who have never interacted, which are frequently just popular because... somebody thought it would be aesthetically pleasing or had interesting meta implications, but everyone else for the most part just jumped aboard because it was amusing to meme about, like, Jack Frost and Elsa.